Haha did you see the Xbox 360 reveal event on MTV back then with the folks lying about how awesome Perfect Dark Zero looked?

Glad to hear that, i was really enjoying Graces F, mostly just because it really felt like a true jrpg since Star Ocean 4 lol.

I can’t wait for Xillia but Namco should give us the release date already lol it’s been a while.

I managed to put over 100 hours into Xillia. The grind itself will still take a little while, and you can still massively OP your characters if you wish.

Xillia to me is better than Graces in every way. Of course, to me Graces is close to the bottom of the ladder as far as Tales titles go. I did like Graces, I like all the mothership Tales games; but so many of the other Tales games are better than Graces imo.

I don’t really remember if it’s longer or shorter than Graces; however, time isn’t really a factor in my assessment of any JRPG, unless it’s under 40 hours. My judgements for any JRPG is primarily based on characterization / character development, story, battle system, and music.

Oh god. Xillia blows Graces F out of the water. That game is freaking terrific.

Well i kinda like when it takes long to level and i prefer higher level due to more stats/hp being added and thus making characters stronger.

I heard that Xillia 2 has the level cap limit of 255 or 200 don’t remeber but this is why i am a little worried about Xillia that lower level could mean a shorter game?

So the other question would be, is it shorter than Graces F?

That’s what happens when you mix a room full of people who are fanboys and/or people who got fucked for 5 years, with a dash of objective thinkers. :p

I never buy used games or trade my old games in so I’m indifferent towards blocking used games. As Xbox 1 and 2 both were region locked it doesn’t matter if the third one is as well.
Looking forward to the event but keeping my expectations low.

Xillia is exponentially better than Graces F.
Leveling to max and filling out all the skills doesn’t take too long either. You will get a lot out of the game, but to me…Xillia was never tedious.

How was Xillia? Would you say it’s better than Graces F? Also does the max lvl 100? 99? hinder the gameplay in terms of ughh you know the typical longer gameplay with lvl 255 in Tales of/ SO games.

Indeed, the 360 was kinda like Nintendo consoles lately. The list of JRPGs is way too short, but the ones it did get we’re too fucking beast. Well, almost all of them :p

Yes i remeber even games like Star Ocean 4 being exclusive for 360, i was so shocked since SO never had anything to do with Xbox or microsoft, it was always on nintendo and playstation platforms, mostly playstation with 5 games and suddenly they announced it 360 exclusive xD i was so mad but little did i know how the PS3 owners would get a better version.

And the best part is, no more disc swaping whenever you want to revisit some planets and do side quests and stuff.

Oh well, you may be right except the part where you say it is retarded to buy a risky console to play 3-4 games that are only available on that console.

If you really love games you would say something like, a 360 that might die in 6 months – 1 year or longer for what we know, still worth owning just to play these games.

The xbox hate blinds you from enjoying a few extra good games on it, you are right some have the failure rate higher than others and indeed the product is not stable however, i lost tons of save when my PS3 died but i don’t care i like replaying games.

Having 5 xboxes dying on you almost gives you the right to say it is retarded to buy a used 360 however, there is no other way to play these games and as a gamer i say it is worth buying new or used i don’t care but buying the platform so that you can play these games on, unless you can play them on PC, i heard a rumor that Windows 7 will or can play 360 games, i don’t know.

Well, it’s depressing to have no hope, so I’m trying to keep an open mind that MS can learn from its mistakes…

But then I look at Windows 8, and I reach for the booze…

Yes. That’s the same reason I bought my 360.

a PS3 lasting for years is indicative of Sony’s build quality.
An xbox lasting for more than 6 months is indeed luck.
No matter how you spin it with your 1 single friends anecdotal experience, the FACTS are that MS built a poor quality piece of shit console and Sony did the opposite.

My launch 60gb lasted 5.5 years and got Ylod.
I wasnt remotely upset and you want to know why?

My friend said it best: “1 Ps3 in 5 years is better than 5 xbox’s in 1 year”.

There is no luck involved when an xbox dies. It is par for the course.

I googled xbox failrate for you and a survey was done in 2011 on the slims which showed a minimum 10% failrate in the first year of ownership.
10% is FAR greater than any of its competitors btw.
The story was on Maxconsole and they also sited their news source in the article.
I’d post a link but copy/paste does not work on this site from the iphone.

Its also rather telling that MS instituted a 3 yr retroactive warranty for two known failures: RRoD and E74.
Even more telling is that when the slim came out in June 2010 they announced: “the slim will not suffer the RRoD like other models of the 360 b/c we removed the 3 LED lights that turn RED so our product can no longer “red ring”.

With MS blatant admission of the RRoD fiasco being a known problem I believe its safe to say that bad luck has nothing to do with the 360 failrate and instead its bad business and bad build quality.

BTW: They did not say we “fixed the RRoD by fixing the root cause of the problem….they simply propegated spin.
What they forgot to mention was that RRoD was replaced with RDoD. Red Dot of Death.

So back to what I said before, buying an xbox that you know will fail at any second is indeed retarded.
Buying to play 3 JRPGS that are pre2009 is also pretty retarded no matter how good those 3 games are b/c everyone knows you’ll never see another JRPG on the platform.

To each their own though.

Well it is not retarded, i give you my word that my friends 360 is working for years, imagine me buying it from him 3 years ago? That would count as a used 360 and it would probably last for years just like it did for him.

It is not a question of retardness rather luck, how would you explain this:

My friend bought a used launch 60GB PS3 that was running for 3 years before he bought it and he has it now for 2 years, so that is 5 year and still running. Still works, however i had my PS3 60GB launch for 3-4 years new and it broke down.

He has a 360 running for years and he plays often, whenever i visit him all his shit works. It is luck, if not then what is it? Unless you really play for 7-10 hours a day then sure the risk of consoles dying is high, the obvious: the longer you have it on and play it the sooner it will die.